Vetting of Hillary Rodham Clinton for Secretary of State Includes Look at Bill Clinton - NYTimes.com
WASHINGTON — President-elect Barack Obama’s advisers have begun reviewing former President Bill Clinton’s finances and activities to see whether they would preclude the appointment of his wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton, as secretary of state, Democrats close to the situation said Sunday.
The examination of the former president suggests how seriously Mr. Obama is considering bringing his onetime rival for the Democratic presidential nomination into his cabinet. He met with Mrs. Clinton in Chicago on Thursday to talk about the prospect and word quickly filtered out. Many Democrats close to both camps said Sunday that it seemed likely that Mr. Obama would ask her to take the job, assuming they could work something out regarding Mr. Clinton’s role.
I think this is all bull, just more of the smoke and mirrors designed to make Obama seem serious in his offer to Hillary Clinton. As I have noted previously, the only circumstance I can imagine in which Hillary accepts a cabinet position in Obama’s administration is if she has decided she has no further desire to seek the Presidency.
Admitted, her current situation is actually more dire than most folks understand, as far as a new run for the White House goes. The calculus for her is this: If Obama is successful, he will be re-nominated four years from now. If he is so unsuccessful as to not be re-nominated, it is highly dubious that Hillary can grab the nomination and be elected to succeed him.
In either event, it will be eight years before she can make a potentially successful run for the White House, but even in that case, her chances are slim. First, the American people almost never put the same party in charge of the Oval Office three terms running - GHWB managed to spin out the Reagan string, but he was following in the footsteps of one of the most popular presidents in modern history. Second, and speaking of Reagan, Hillary will be 69 in 2012. Only one other President was that old on election - Reagan himself. And no matter what happens in the next eight years, I can’t imagine anything that would give the immensely polarizing Clintons anything like Reagan’s popularity.
There’s another subtext at work here as well - Hillary came out of her failed campaign with a lot of debt, some of it personal. The Clintons like losing money about as well as they like losing blood. Obama came out of his campaign swimming in cash. It isn’t hard to imaging a deal wherein Hillary swears off her prexy ambitions, joins the Obama cabinet, helps to heal the breach in the Dem party, and in return she gets a Supreme Court post down the road, as well as yet another Obama bailout on her campaign debts.
So I guess I’m divided. Either this is an Obama game, or Hillary and Bill are hanging up their spurs in terms of going back to Pennsylvania Avenue.
Which way do you think it’s going?
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I think they’ve hung it up. Hillary after 8 years of Obama, only if O is so succesful that everyone is convinced socialism is good. Not going to happen. Too old, especially to be the first woman pres.
Nope, make nice and take what they can. Or, wait for deaths to occur while in line.
As Secretary of State, she won’t have to face the NY voters again as the NYC Democratic fundraising base implodes. (Not that a Republican can win a Senate seat in NY, but there’s always the primary.)
She and Bill can also get another shot at the Nobel Prize for
PeaceUndermining Israel.In my opinion, if we can bring peace between Israel and Palestine by having a two state solution in lieu of the Palestinians housed in an area similiar to a huge prison the situation in the Middle-East would change dramatically. I believe the Arab countries would join in peaceful co-existance with Israel. With the appointment of Rahm Emanuel the son of Dr Benjamin Emanuel a former terrorist with the Irgun Terrorists Organization that killed a number of Palestinians and British in the 1940s who recently stated it was obvious Rahm would influence the President to be pro-Israel according to the Jerusalem Post. Further, “why wouldn’t Rahm be influential?” “What is he, an Arab? He’s not going to clean the floors of the White Hosue.” In June 2003, Rahm Emanuel signed a letter criticizing the our President for being insufficiently supportive of Israel. “We were deeply dismayed to hear your criticism of Israel for fighting acts of terror,” Mr Emanuel, along with 33 other Democrats wrote to Mr Bush. The letter asserted that Israel’s policy of assassinataing Palestinian political leaders “was clearly justified as an application of Israel’s right to self-defense.” Such killings violate the Geneva Convenction, and the State Department’s human-rights report specified that there were more civilian bystanders killed in Israeli assassination attempts than actual targets in 2003.
Rahm did serve with the Israeli Army a fact well known. With Senators Lieberman and Clinton in high positions of government this might make it more difficult to resolve the situation in the Middle-East and also cause more Arab hatred. With appointments such as the individuals cited, it appears there will not be honest moderations to bring a peaceful settlement to the Palestine/Israel situation.
I’m not anti Israel but I am an advocate of peace within the Middle-East and around the world.
So Rahm Emmanuel is an Evil Joooo, and that means no peace? How nice it must be to live in such a simple, simple world, you pathetic simpleton.
There is no need to resort to name-calling.
Do you have even the slightest clue where you are?
Be that as it may, if Anon is the same as Adamwestiii, and the worse response you get for that senseless bilge you posted is, “you pathetic simpleton,” then you have gotten off very lightly.
You mean like Hong Kong and Manhattan are huge prisons? Or the fact it’s surrounded by walls and filled with crazy people?
We have been shown that there is no such thing as a terrorist. You must mean “freedom fighter”.
So’s shooting rockets at civilian populations. I wonder which came first?
Henchmen aren’t civilians. Nice try.
“Nigel Tufnel: The numbers all go to eleven. Look, right across the board, eleven, eleven, eleven and…
Marty DiBergi: Oh, I see. And most amps go up to ten?
Nigel Tufnel: Exactly.
Marty DiBergi: Does that mean it’s louder? Is it any louder?
Nigel Tufnel: Well, it’s one louder, isn’t it? It’s not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be playing at ten. You’re on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you’re on ten on your guitar. Where can you go from there? Where?”
Fixed it for ya.
Oh, I beg to differ. Outright anti-Semitic trollery earns you nothing but name-calling around here, you purulent camel molester. Go peddle your filth somewhere addled bigots like yourself enjoy wanking off to fantasies of your darling Hussein and all the betrayals of Israel you could hope for. Oh, the horror, Hussein went and appointed a filthy Joooo, son of an Irgooon, as his chief of staff. The poor, innocent, little Palestinians must be doomed to suffer, through no fault of their own, for another generation.
You disgust me. If you had any sense of decency, you’d disgust yourself. Anybody who would present the argument you presented in the manner you presented it is so far beyond understanding or redemption that every second I spend composing this reply would be a waste of my life, except for the fact that I enjoy the opportunity to insult worthless plague-ridden shit-eating rodents such as you. I don’t expect you to learn anything from it, you drive-by poo-flinging son of a sickly monkey. I don’t engage swine like you in debate, you’re neither capable nor worthy of it. FOAD.
Bill,
re: choosing martinra as an editor.
Yes, I think he’ll fit in just fine, once he learns to say what he really thinks, instead of keeping it all bottled up like that.
…
Beams with pride.
adamwesttheturd - g-d are you ignorant. you have no idea the situation in israel. that you expose your ignorance is shown when you state the treatment of the Paleosimians violates the Geneva accords. Palestine is not a nation and therefore unable to sign the accords. Therefore they do not apply to Palestine or any supposed Palestains. go back to kos’ and self manipulate.
Hillary as Sec State is a no win proposition for her. IF she manages to accomplish something solid, Obama will take all of the credit, while if she does not make any major breakthroughs, she will get all of the blame for the lack of apparant progress. She is much better off being in the Senate “helping” Obama pass his agenda. If he falls on his face she can challenge him in ‘12, if not, the life of a senator is not too bad of a way to go…
Well. So much for slug puss getting off lightly, eh, martinra?
Might I suggest calling 1-866-BLUD-LET. The guy on the other end will be happy to swing by here and clean up the mess. Doesn’t come cheap, but for a mess like this, he’s worth it. Thorough and discreet. Comes highly recommended. DP editors get a 30% discount! What’s not to like? I mean, he makes it up in volume…
Isn’t it wonderful for you that you can still hum Kumbayah with a dog’s dick down your throat.
Drudge says she’s taking it.
I was going to let it pass with only a poke of the epee, but Anonymous there changed my mind. It’s one thing to spout Pali agitprop, it’s another to jump up and defend the indefensible. Sometimes you’ve just got to haul out the broadsword and get blood on the ceiling fan.
Nice image, SteveF, very nice. That’s a keeper.
We each bring our own special flavorings to the kitchen. My favourite is spiky, bitter seeds, served raw, which result in the customer throwing up a little in the back of his throat.
“Drudge says she’s taking it.”
I am stunned. I suppose next you are going to tell me that Mark Cuban is being investigated for insider trading.
Yes, but not till just after he launches a website about the lack of government oversight in the financial bailout…