Robb Allen in comments to another post said:
And so I rarely go to the movies any more.
Which brings up another thought I had as I was reading the responses here. All the things I no longer do because either nannies, or statists, or simply technological change, have transformed my habits.
1. San Francisco has plastered the downtown area with traffic cameras that seem rigged, so I no longer drive downtown.
2. I almost never go to theater releases of movies. Most of the product of liberal Hollywood sucks, and of what remains, it’s easier and much cheaper to get it through my satellite and look at it on my big flatscreen.
3. I haven’t bought or read a dead tree newspaper in years.
4. I do go out to restaurants, but that’s only because I quit smoking. If I still smoked, I’d never go out to eat in California, where public smoking is banned. And given that San Francisco’s war on the private automobile has made parking nearly impossible in most places, the restaurants that get my business are located in those few places where parking availability is good.
5. I don’t fly unless the need is absolutely dire. The thugs of the petty police states that have accreted around flying have driven me away.
6. If something as good as WebVan were to return - and something will, eventually - I would rarely enter the physical confines of a grocery or liquor/wine store.
7. I, who used to live in bookstores, haven’t been physically inside one in years. Ditto libraries. amazon.com for me.
8. Amazon also for a lot of hard goods I might otherwise have shopped the department stores for - especially cooking stuff.
9. I’m no longer much of a clothes horse, but what clothes I do buy, I buy online, except for bags of socks and underwear from Costco.
10. I am almost always personally connected to the internet, either at home, or via my EVDO-connected laptop, which is usually in my backpack. My next laptop will be even smaller and lighter (and much more powerful) than my current machine. I get nervous if the net isn’t immediately at hand - especially Google.
How about you? What do you do differently these days from what, just twenty or so years ago, was considered the normal, everyday way to live?
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About a year ago I switched to Fox News for the only TV news I watched…now, “fair and balanced” merely means a predictable leftie vs a predictable rightie with no meaningful analysis. I stopped watching all news on TV and now exclusively use the internet.
Work from home 60%, work on the road 35%, appear at the ‘office’ 5%. Imagine telling someone in 1987 that you would one day be doing software work from your home office.
Query and then my observations:
Bill, how do you successfully pick clothes online? Specifically I am talking slacks. I have found that a 38×30 can vary greatly from maker to maker. Or do you stick with one brand?
Work: I have a 3-2 split. 3 home office, 2 in office specifically for scheduled meetings. I have not done a 5 day stretch in office in 3 years.
Purchases: If the item is over $100 I comparison shop online. If I can buy online and have it delivered I do. Even for B&M type of opportunities (eg Loews) I do a store search to see if they have the critical items for the project. I prefer stores that provide the inventory search over those that do not. It reduces my drive times and saves $$.
Entertainment: We may go to a movie just to get out. Usually early morning as the kids are less numerous. On the other hand most other needs are met by cable and NetFlix and our MythTV system. One thing we hardly ever watch anymore is network TV.
Restraunts: We only frequent a few. But those we do are within 15min of the abode. And we generally avoid any restraunt that is using dayglow colors on the chalk board menu — not our type of crowd. Most of all we invite friends over for a dinner and conversation and we all swap around the duty. Lot more fun.
Miscellaneous: One thing I seem to do quite often is online shopping with OfficeMax. Sure they sell office supplies but they also sell items like soda, bottled water and other nonoffice products. Watch for some good pricing, apply the coupons and get the order over $100 and its free delivery in our area. :)
1) We haven’t had a “fixed-base” telephone service in years, since 1996 for me, since 2003 for spouse - partly because most of the time I work on contract and therefore away from home, mostly because, even with the bu**sh** charges the cell carriers try to lard their services with, it’s cheaper, better service (mostly) and fewer hassles to use cell service for all telecommunication.
2) I hardly ever watch TV at all, even when I’m at home - I don’t have a set with me at the location where I’m currently working - and spouse only watches a bit of Fox News and certain cable shows, no regular network programming. The only time we watch anything on the set (at home) together, it’s a movie or a particular program, again on cable or (in case it’s a movie) more likely on DVD disc or tape.
3) Aside from groceries and some smaller household supplies, we buy just about everything either mail-order or (increasingly) online - I even buy most clothing that way, when I’m at home; spouse shops regular (local) stores for most clothing, but comparison-shops (in advance) while online. Even our prescriptions come mail-order.
4) Movies anywhere but at home are a rare thing for us. Dining out, on the other hand, is more common for us than it used to be, but neither one of us smokes (South Florida doesn’t have the “nanny laws” yet, but they’re working on it) and the kids are grown and moved out long ago.
5) Between the two of us, we might drive 5,000 miles a year - gas is expensive, insurance ditto, so we live close to work (for her), and/or use public transport or walk a lot(for me, especially while on contract). Oh, and we don’t make car payments - both vehicles are long since paid off.
6) I find it difficult to function, on a daily basis, without at least a modicum of Internet access - I depend on being online for news, research, weather, correspondence, you name it. For spouse, access is a necessity; she goes into withdrawal inside of a day. Both of us have noticed changes in our online preferences, too - some sites that were formerly pretty essential are no longer as useful, others have replaced them.
7) Neither of us enjoys anything about travel by plane, except the (relative) speed of getting there - and even that’s fading pretty fast. The airlines and TSA (and other government agencies) have, together, made commercial flight a tedious and often harrowing chore - and not perceptively safer in any aspect, if not more hazardous in some ways.
Great topic - amazing how much technology changes things:
1) Kicked the 9-5 job to the curb a few years back. 15 years ago if you had a great deal of knowledge in a specific area, your pay was largely determined by those that physically surrounded you with similar knowledge (still is to a lesser degree). Now, you can be a dumbass among experts, but chances are elsewhere in the country or world, you’re the expert. Now you can find people who seek your knowledge and are willing to pay for it.
Heh. Just described myself as a dumbass who sells stuff to people stupider than I am online. Harsh, perhaps, but generally on point. No shame here, it’s a good living.
2) Pay cash for everything if possible. Went through the debt machine awhile back and I didn’t much like it. Only thing I haven’t paid cash for is my house. Whether it’s a car, computer equipment, or anything else, if you’re not paying cash you’re getting screwed by someone. Now I keep one credit card and I don’t use it.
3) Broadband phone. Cheap, easy, reliable enough.
4) No more movie theater. Used to go to three movies a weekend not that long ago. Take a kid to a Pixar flick - $20 for two tickets, $10 for some movie food, $6 for drinks? Bah. Buy it for $17 at Wal-Mart and make some home-made nachos. It’s more fun and you can do it again the next night. Plus, every time a celeb opens their mouth about current events it makes me want to watch movies even less. I buy movies I know I’ll really enjoy. I’d rather watch Airplane! again than whatever ichor is on the big screen these days.
Stewardess? I speak jive …
5) Linux. Can’t beat it in spite of a few shortcomings as Bill has previously described regarding compatibility.
1) I never buy music in a store anymore, purchase online.
2) While I began listening to local talk radio about 20 years ago after the repeal of the “fairness doctrine”, I have now begun listening to talk radio via the home wifi connection to the internet. Channel selection is vast.
3) Manage a home wifi network.
4) Work from home, and my cell number is my business number.
Here’s a couple of already come and gones…
1) Got a pager in the early 90s, and it was gone before the decade was up.
2) Had a dial up connection for work in the last 80s; it too was gone within a decade.
1. I don’t own a TV, which would have been inconceivable to people 10 years ago.
2. Netflix has made video stores obsolete. I’ve finally seen many movies I’ve always wanted to see and couldn’t find.
3. I lived in Japan for 2.5 years, was constantly in touch with family and friends back home through email, found out about many bars, restaurants and English-language events on the Internet, and ordered loads of English books from Amazon. It would have been much more difficult to live there as a non-Japanese speaking foreigner before the Internet.
4. Job hunting is much easier when you can quickly get loads of information about an employer and email resumes instead of having to do hours of research and type everything.
5. Apartment hunting is much easier when you can quickly search for what you want instead of having to look through a huge newspaper section full of ads.
6. I read papers online and haven’t subscribed to a dead tree newspaper since 1993.
7. I only have a cell phone and no regular phone.
8. I don’t own a car, and rely on New York’s much-maligned, but actually quite decent public transportation system. Score one for the state.
9. Smoking in regular bars is banned in New York, but smoking is allowed in hookah bars and cigar bars, which have become much more numerous since the ban on smoking in regular bars. I go to hookah bars all the time.
10. I’m a huge fan of Ethiopian, Thai, and Indian food, all of which were almost impossible to find in the US 20 years ago, and very difficult to find just 10 years ago outside of a few major cities.
11. Do you remember when coffee meant actual black coffee and not a caramel mocha soy milk cinnamon frappuccino?
12. Health clubs have really changed since the 1980’s (women don’t wear leotards anymore unfortunately) and 1990’s (a shift towards softer exercises like yoga and Pilates and away from weights and aerobics).
13. New York and most other large US cities have become much safer. I don’t even think twice about going to neighborhoods late at night that I would have been afraid to go near 15-20 years ago.
Newspapers: Brenda still subscribes, and reads them front to back. I might glance at a headline now and then, but that’s it. Everything is on the web.
Movies: Only for the kids, and that’s pretty rare.
Television: Almost never. Nothing worth watching, which makes it easy.
Here’s one that’s not on the lists above. I don’t compose music on paper any more. I plug it into the computer. Out of curiosity, Bill, as an author, when was the last time you wrote on paper?
I, who used to live in bookstores, haven’t been physically inside one in years. Ditto libraries. amazon.com for me.
I really like my local library. Haven’t been past the front door in a while, though. Look up the books on the web, request them, and they send me email when the book is available. Fire and forget.
Great for when someone recommends a book to you that you don’t really want to buy (or don’t want to buy yet).
Just got Charlie Stross’ new book in hardback from the library. I’ll buy it in a year or so - when it’s out in paperback.
1986. The year I got my first Radio Shack cpomputer - a Tandy 2000 - and, not at all coincidentally, wrote my first full length novel manuscript - which sold immediately. And for me, that’s when everything began to change.
Basically, I have two classes of authors - the few (among whom Charles in numbered) who I buy immediately in hardcover, and the many, who I have no problems in waiting until the paperback version appears.
Sort of the way I approach movies, come to think of it.
Hah. My first modem was 400 baud from Prodigy, it plugged into the walll socket like an air freshener or night light. They weren’t yet fully rolled out, so I had to buy a special rate from Ma Bell to call beyond local to their access number.
Then it was a quick progression up to a USR Sportster 56K and on to GEnie and Compuserve.
A few years ago my cell signal was weak inside the house, so I kept a land-line and DSL on it. Then they installed more towers nearby, so I dumped the land-line and switched to a cable modem. I just, this past Friday had their phone service added, mostly because they’ve been bugging me forever and the package is slightly cheaper than I was paying (for a year anyway).
Basically, I figured too, what a PITA it’d be if I lost or dropped the cell phone, so no harm having the extra line, and I find the “Find Me” option very cool — that’s where you program the cable phone to ring up to 3 additional lines simultaneously when it’s dialed.
Oddly enough too, by taking that cable “triple play” they also give me free movie tickets, on a weekly basis I think, something I’d have salivated for some years back, but today, eh, I’ll be surprised if I ever use that feature.
Hmm let’s see. Yes Iceman, I do remember when
It still is exactly that for me.
I can understand too, the few above that don’t have TVs, but I’m a TV person, bought my first one with lawnmowing money back in the mid-60s (a 16″ B&W Hitachi). I have two in the same room now and at least one is on 24/7. Sure there’s nothing on, and sure cable news sucks almost as bad as network news, and sure there ain’t much good new stuff (though there is some) but it’s my background noise and I believe it always will be.
Twenty years ago, porn was printed on paper, usually glossy, and mailed in plain brown wrappers. Now, a wealth, a torrent, a veritable pornucopia is available with a few mouse clicks. (Sometimes even when you’re not looking for it.)
A little under twenty years ago, my girlfriend was a tall, sleek, bisexual, psychotic bitch. When we broke up for the last time, she stole my meager collection of girly magazines. Nowadays, were I interested in keeping a collection, I’d just back it up to a spare DVD-R (approx 25c each) and be psychotic bisexual thieving girlfriend-proof.
Steve, not much of a collection if it fits on one DVD.
Now days instead of popping in an eight-track, I put on my mp3 player. Loads of fun trying to find some of the songs I like. 2,000 songs on the HD, so far.
In ‘75 while in the Corps, I worked in the Comm Center with our high speed terminal and an IBM 360/20. Desk size 20k RAM and the high speed was 1,000 baud.
Welly, welly, welly…
1) I live near a “rural” city. No problems with the cameras. We have them, but the Commonwealth won’t allow their use. Very strange situation.
2) I have not seen a movie in a theater in 3 years. I wait for DVD releases. I’m much more comfortable in my abode, with a cocktail and snacks.
3) I haven’t read a dead tree newspaper in years. I occasionally read one when I’m not at home. Actually, I flip through it, marveling that I actually used to be obsessed with reading the damn things. Now I can’t figure out what I ever saw in them.
4) I’m pretty religious about eating out; sort of a requirement of my craft. Smoking hasn’t become such a contentious issue here in Virginia; after all, we invented smoking, pretty much. But, the Lady and I do eat out quite often.
5) I last flew about 11 years ago. I have no desire to fly now. I might consider it for an overseas trip. The Lady wants to go to Spain and the UK. We’ll see…
6) I haven’t tried the online grocer thing, but I do order a ton of foodstuffs, both wholesale and retail, online. I have bought wine online on a number of occasions. The thing that gives me pause is the cost of shipping; in particular, perishables, which require overnight or 2nd day shipping. When that comes down, I can see doing much more shopping that way.
7) I hit the local Barnes & Noble for the occasional magazine or sale purchase. Otherwise, it’s Amazon all the way. The only bookstores I frequent are used book stores, and Charlottesville, being a college town, is not lacking in those. But I do find myself gravitating to Abebooks and other sites, as well. I’ve made a bunch of great purchases there. I now own an entire collection of first edition Tom Wolfe and Barbara Tuchman tomes. Mostly to see if I could do it without breaking the bank.
8) Amazon is where I get most of my hard goods. Cooking stuff? I’ve gotten some great deals there, but I do tend to shop around online for the challenge of it. But, sometimes I do want to handle the product. That’s where a physical Sur La Table or Williams-Sonoma comes into the picture. Oft times, I’ll check something out at one of those places, see if I like it, and then shop around. And because Sur La Table offers me a professional discount (20% overall; 10% on electrics and books…), I end up giving them a fair amount of business.
9) I buy most of my clothes online or at Samuel’s.
10) I get the serious jitters not being near the interwebs. In fact, I’m considering my next iPod purchase to be the iPod Touch for it’s WiFi capabilities. I like the idea of taking a device out of my pocket, checking my email, surfing the web, or even posting to DP from whatever WiFi hot spot I happen to wander into.
Twenty years ago? Jesus. Twenty years ago, I got into the cooking biz. It was considered quite exotic for a restaurant to have a computer. My first experience with a desktop system was using it to manage a Wine Spectator Grand Award winning wine list. And I had to fight to get on that thing. The fact that we could publish out own menus at a whim was considered very daring and cutting edge.
Now, I can’t begin to conceive of not having the ‘net at my beck and call. I don’t need a recipe book (but I still have an enourmous collection of cookbooks…); they’re all out there in the aether. I have a broadband connection at work, and whenever I need to look up something, I can do it. In fact, I hurriedly posted last weekend’s Cooking Thread between seatings at the Inn.
Here’s two things that I find kind of interesting that haven’t been mentioned before:
ID Shifting, or what I call the “facade” seems to be much easier to grasp now a days. I have the DrObviousSo identity that you all know and put up with. I use it for general internet ‘running around’. I also have an identity that I shift to keyed off my real name. I use it for financial stuff, school stuff, jobs, etc. I have a third keyed off a name totally irrelevant to myself that I use for sundry illicit or embarrassing activities. I drop a lot of false hints as to this identities real user, so I have plausible deniability with is.
Communication priority follows function. I use IM for silly little off the cuff comments to friends. Jokes, random questions, etc I use email when I need to discuss anything of import that doesn’t need an answer right away. Coordinating where we are watching a football game, what should I do about this bill, etc. Phone calls are only for important and time sensitive things. Phone calls are the only way of the three that force the other person to accommodate message initiate.
I got a call today from my best friend’s wife telling me her baby just crawled. That’s a good phone call. I call last Friday from my Dad about a trip we were planning. I had to what I was doing to accommodate him. That should have been an email.
Pretty soon now, we’re going to see a merging of IM and email. I bet Gtalk probably already does it, but noone uses Gtalk.
I’ve got some further thoughts on this stuff, but it’s late, and I don’t feel like typing any more. Bill, do you want to talk some more over email, or keep going here?
I’m not sure. My take on network effects is that the more grist poured into the network, the higher the payoff - and I regard DP as a network.
Put it this way - if it is something that you think should be a private comm between the two of us, use email. But if the notion is something that might be of interest generally (as far as being on-subject re Singularity) toss it into the network.
I’ve doing a bit of thinking about re-organizing the information output here - new categories, maybe even some structural changes.
I’m looking at incorporating g-talk into the blog itself, for instance.
I’ve been using google talk for some time now. I use it extensively when out of the country. No cost. Better quality than a phone line in most cases. Always a great connection with foreign country to the USA. Not so good when I speak from China to someone in India. I have a Chinese Motorola cell phone I use when in China. It works well, but still not as good as G talk to the US.
Whew! I hardly do anything the way I would have done it 20 years ago.
I no longer have to drive clean across the state to do research at the university library and state archives. Now I just call up the PDFs of the archival materials or pick out the books and periodicals I want from the on line catologs and they mail ‘em to me, or scan and email them. Haven’t actually set foot in the university library in probably 10 years.
It’s a 90 mile drive to the nearest WalMart so Amazon.com is my friend. The nice UPS lady flags me down and gives me small boxes when she sees me walking down the street. [And I’m finally remembering to always click through the Amazon link up there ^!]
Used to waste a lot of daylight waiting for the engineers to get to the office so I could call or visit them (with visits often being a cross-state drive). Now I email them and share maps & project designs & such digitally. We’re about to put surveyors out of work as the engineers can draw up the project design and send me the GPS data. No lathe for the pinheads to pull up, no flagging for the cows to eat.
Best of all, I can stay in constant contact with my deaf-as-a-post Dad. Can’t talk to him on the phone, can’t hardly talk to him in person. But I bought him a computer and got him on the internet and you’d be amazed how many emails the old coot can churn out in a day typing with one finger.
20 years ago I:
- watched TV and read newspapers
- bought print copies of books in the public domain
- had to mail a letter or make a phone call to contact someone,
- used phone books, encyclopedias and home medical reference books
- didn’t get chain letter snail mail spam from Mom
- didn’t have to stop everything to play sysadmin
You have me curious, now, Swen. What is it that you and your engineers are doing, that’s putting the surveyors out of work?
Here’s another concept that I’ve been thinking about recently: Behavior based stereotypes. In the blogosphere, it’s called the echo chamber. I don’t read him, he’s a stupid bush-bot/kossak/moonbat/etc.
It’s something that’s been around in geek culture for a long time. Do a google image search for “geek hierarchy”.
This goes back to what I understand to be the supposed root of human stereotyping. There’s a lot of data out there, and it’s better to sift through it quickly but inefficiently than it is to do so slowly and perfectly. Online, you’re only as important as the data you put out, so ignoring furries out of hand is adaptive.
I am now once again using the Houston, Texas library system—after an absence of some ten years. The Internet has turned it into an enjoyable experience. I can track the items on my card and therefore avoid late fees. Also, I am able to place a hold on something I desire and it is quickly sent to the branch of my choice. Perhaps you might also wish to give your local library another chance?
So how do you folks buy clothes online? I haven’t because I’m always afraid I’ll get the sizes wrong and have to jump through the ‘return’ hoops.
Something else none of us would have been able to do 10 years ago. Most of the major drug retail chains also have in-store photoshops. In this case it was Walgreens. Now I usually don’t use these services as I usually just print it out on the color laser. The neat thing is I can upload the pics then select the store I want for pickup. So I selected the store closest to my parents house. Made the payment online.
Waited for the notice that they were ready. Sent parents and email where to pick them up. 2 hours later got an email back how nice the pics were. I cut out the trip to the post officer, the postage cost and the wasted time. It’s little tricks like this that permits me to get more done.
Twenty years ago, I could only really go meta through NLP. Today, I have an almost exponential improvement in my ability to do so — forex, Lifehacker, tips and downloads for getting things done.
What are other people’s fave prefuturist recommendations?
I spend most of my spare time with my home computer.
Actually I made that change 30 years ago. Thanks to the rest of you for catching up.
This is an interesting post, and an interesting subject to think about. After giving this some thought, I decided to take a different approach to the question, and instead of listing the ways technology has changed my life (as my list would probably match that of most other posters here,) I decided to take a look at what particular technologies have most affected my life. The result can be found over at my own Blog:
Influential Technologies - The Greatest Technological Influences in My Life
I’m 26, so I might not have the… perspective of some of the other commenters. But to give a brief rundown of how technology affects my habits:
1) Phone: Don’t have a land line. I never have. I have a cell phone already, and I get free long distance with it and I never use up all my minutes anyway, so what’s the point? In fact, the place I’m living in now includes phone service as a perk, but I haven’t bothered to hook it up. I don’t even own a standard phone I could hook up to it.
2) Movies: Back in high school I used to go to movies nearly every weekend. It was around $5 with a student discount. Now it’s around $10 for a ticket, so if my wife and I go, it’s $20 just to get in, and food is on top of that. At that price, only the really big blockbusters are worth seeing at the theater. Also, the only real advantage of the theater is the big screen, and lots of disadvantages come with it; like the people next to you who think they enhance your viewing experience by commenting loudly all the time. Now that I have an HDTV and the price of movies has gone up, the value judgment usually comes out in favor of staying at home. This year I’ve only seen Transformers and… well, Transformers.
3) Related to the above; Netflix: It has changed everything. Since I’ve already “sunk” the monthly subscription cost, movie rentals are functionally free. So if I’m considering whether to see a movie on the big screen or at home, since renting the movie will cost nothing extra, the price difference between renting and theatergoing is further exacerbated. But more than that, Netflix allows me to rent a huge variety of obscure titles that I’d never be able to find in a video store (like Japanese Animation titles). And the online viewing feature they recently added is great, now that they’ve made some good titles available. The quality is near-DVD, and I don’t have to wait for a disc in the mail.
4) Music: iTunes all the way. I don’t even own an iPod, so I have to burn all of my purchases to CD in order to get them un-protected so I can play them on my device of choice, but I still love it. I haven’t bought a CD in… well, for as long as I can remember. Recently I tried out the DRM-free Amazon download service, and I like it, but selection leaves a little to be desired.
5) Newspapers: Don’t subscribe. Never have. I read them online, and I might read one article from each of a dozen newspapers. I almost subscribed to the WaPo when they offered me a year for free, but my wife pointed out that they would probably just pile up unread and become one more thing cluttering up our home.
6) Airplane travel: I live in VA and have family in CA, so unfortunately I have to fly that route fairly frequently. But I’ve been taking the train for shorter trips. I figure there’s a certain range where rail travel makes more sense, since you have to add so much time to air travel for security and delays and the inconvenience of airports.
7) Research: I’m a grad student, and if an article isn’t online and searchable, it’s just not worth my time. I think this is the hardest thing to understand for older generations, to whom “research” is defined by going to libraries and pouring over dusty journals for hours. But I can pluck out narrowly relevant articles from hundreds of journals, going back decades, in mere seconds. Given that availability, it’s just not worth my time, comparatively, to seek out articles that might only be available on paper. So if you want your article to be relevant, make sure its online. It doesn’t have to be free, but it definitely needs to be digital.
Big +1 on Amazon there. It’s basically the first place I look for pretty much anything unless I happen to know it comes only from a certain vendor. Even if I don’t get it from them, it makes for some interesting price comparisons without the obnoxiousness of the price compare sites.
About #7, Chris. Part of the plot of Rainbow’s End deals with a plan to digitize the contents of entire paper libraries. Unfortunately (in the view of some in the book) this involves the physical destruction of the actual books. The digitization method sounds both plausible and ingenious, by the way.
Those who favor it point out that for the current generations, the knowledge in these books might not exist, because nobody actually reads paper books any more. And somebody else points out that by digitizing all written human knowledge, a great deal of new knowledge may be synthesized from the old.
I’m the same way. If it’s not digital, I probably won’t find it, with the exception of the very few magazines (Dwell, PC Mag) that I subscribe to.
I started programming for RCA Victor back in 1965. Congratulations to you for eventually catching up.
I’m an antiquer and used to drive hundreds of miles to auctions. No more. It’s Craigslist, ebay and auctioneer websites for me. Besides the local auction house I can walk to, I’ve driven to one auction in the last few years when the website revealed a rare piece of furniture that justified hauling my keister 80 miles one way and skipping a pleasant evening with my family. I’m happy to report I got the piece at a fantastic price.
I hate, hate, hate, physical media of any type. CD’s, DVD’s, book, magazines, comic books, etc. They all live on my hard drive now.