The Bush administration “won’t be able to continue. They won’t be able to do the deployment. They won’t have the equipment. They don’t have the training and they won’t be able to do the work,” Murtha said in the post on the Democrat-friendly Web site MoveCongress.org. “This vote will limit the options of the president and should stop this surge.”
Am I understanding this cowardly, treacherous, appeasing puss-bag correctly? He is trying to cripple the US military and the President of the United States’ ability to defend the nation in order to achieve his domestic political goals and consummate his hatred of George W. Bush?
Man, I sure do hope the Republicans come up with somebody I can vote for in 2008.
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You already used your opt-out in the last election, Bill. It bought you the vision of the future now before you. You can argue with party leaders over principles at your leisure, but in 2008 the stakes are too high to allow a Democrat in the White House. It won’t be about principles, it will be about survival.
Bullshit. Tell it to your Republican leadership. If they don’t agree, I’m not going to enable them. And I get as many “opt-outs” as I want. I’m an American, not a GOP slave.
> in 2008 the stakes are too high to allow a Democrat in the White House. It won’t be about principles, it will be about survival.
Nice talk-talk, but actual GOP behavior shows otherwise.
If the GOP was essential, it would be doing essential things. Instead, it’s wandering around saying “the Dems will be worse”.
Right now, Hillary is stronger on national defense than the GOP top candidates. Sure, she’s pushing an anti-war angle now, but we know that she’ll do anything, even defend the US, to keep power.
We’ve yet to see anything important enough to Repubs to provoke the same response.
When the GOP is serious about defending the US, get back to us.
“Tell it to your Republican leadership.” ?? Bad news Bill. I’m still registered democrat. I’m a radical right wing, pro business, low taxes, pro second amendment, pro military, small government democrat. I realize my party has been hijacked by a socialist, marxist, multiculturalist gaggle of hate-America-first morons, and that putting them in charge of national security at this point in our history would be an unmitigated disaster.
You want your party leadership to get back to the party’s core principles, and so do I, because I believe that only a disastrous electoral failure of the democrats can break the grip of the nutroots and allow the democratic party to move to the right of center where it belongs, where its founder, Thomas Jefferson, wanted it.
I’ve avoided switching to Republican registration after watching the Christian right Republicans in California destroy the state party with its litmus tests and social issue absolutism that amounts to a restriction on personal liberty.
Party politics aside, we’re in an existential struggle with uncivilized, savage, stone age tribal fanatics who must be destroyed. To me, it’s the single most important issue, and it trumps all else. If you opt out and put the party of Pelosi, Murtha, Teddy K and Kucinich in charge of both Congress and the White House, just to send another message to a terminally stupid Republican leadership, you’re cutting your own throat, and endangering the country.
Take it from a democrat, and your own eyes. The majority in Congress has been in place less than two months, and their lunacy is readily apparent. In two years, you’re going to realize it’s not just the nutroots but the whole party that’s gone off the deep end. Give them the Oval office in 2008, and we’re all up shit creek.
If it is readily apparent, then valid, viable opposition will arise to it, in both parties. If it does not, I’m not going to vote for the slightly lesser of two evils.
And if the struggle is, as you say, existential, the current GOP will not do anything to slow the defeat. They are part of the problem, not the solution. The other part of the problem is people who keep voting for the GOP simply because they aren’t the Party of Pelosi - which gives them plenty of leeway to continue being part of the problem.
You vote for them, they’re your leaders.
I’m with Bill here. The GOP had the reins of power. We’re in the mess we’re not because of 2 months of Dem control over Congress but at least 10 years of the GOP ignoring their mandate.
Good that they took out the Taliban and Hussein. But the GOP has shown they have no guts to go the rest of the way in the war. Domestically, they’ve loaded on a gigantic new entitlement program on an already failing system.
Being a little bit better than the Democrats is not good enough as we still face failure both domestically and internationally. Unless the GOP runs a true conservative we have the same problems either way.
Actually, Bill, though I’m a registered democrat, I vote only for the cranks in the primaries, but mostly Republican in general elections. It’s getting harder to vote crank in the primaries, since the party anointed is running unopposed more and more. I’d be a Republican, but there’s no Republican party in this state, just a Hollywood RINO who sounded good at first, but gave up his principles for his box office popularity.
Where we seem to disagree is you think the Republican party is as bad as the democrats. But there are principled Republicans left, while the only democrat willing to state publicly that we’re at war was Lieberman, and look what happened to him - he’s now an independent.
It’s been only a few months since the last election, and there’s a solid chance that Gingrich, Tancredo, Hunter and others can bring the party back by talking up its conservative principles. there is NO hope for the democrats, the nutroots are in charge and too dangerous to hold power. The spread between the democratic greater evil and Republican lesser evil is huge.
I’ll vote for a Republican lesser evil who realizes we’re at war over anybody the democrats put up.